I Was Reading Fox News...
This is LIVING PROOF that we do indeed, have senators that are completely, totally, undeniably, retarded. Check this out boys and girls I was reading foxnews.com at 1:50 this morning and came across this story. I read it and wanted to scream. you will to. (Please note that the following is utter stupidity at its worst.)
WASHINGTON — Military lawyers on Thursday elaborated for a Senate panel how they arrived at the decision that "aggressive" tactics on terror detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, were humiliating and degrading, but not illegal.
We did express oppositon to certain things that were being proposed. Other things we did not, and I believe that our opposition was accepted in some cases and maybe not all in all cases," said Maj. Gen. Jack Rives, a lawyer for the U.S. Air Force.
The military lawyers said detainees at Guantanamo Bay were not covered by rights accorded prisoners under the Geneva Conventions, because they fought for the Taliban or Al Qaeda, neither of which accepted or applied Geneva Conventions, or fell under the definition of regular military forces.
Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, defended practices at Guantanamo, arguing that detainees are dangerous and have provided valuable intelligence in the War on Terror.
"You've got folks that are very, very bad — crimes against civilization, crimes against humanity, would kill your sister or brother or grandchild in a heartbeat, they don't care," Myers said.
Even so, senators rejected the idea that Guantanamo detainees aren't covered by the Geneva Conventions.
"I find that enormously troublesome myself, why we have a dual standard," said Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass.
Kennedy was referring to Geneva Convention standards that applied at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, but not at Guantanamo Bay. Similar tactics such as sleep deprivation, menacing detainees with dogs and tormenting them in sexually suggestive ways were used in limited cases in both facilities, but were not authorized at Abu Ghraib.
Senator Kennedy... YOU ARE A RETARD! The dual standard is A PART OF THE GENEVA CONVENTION one of the main purposes of the dual standard is to REMIND you to follow the geneva convention. Hola sen. Kennedy, tu halba engles?! Aperently not! Gah!
Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, who was subjected to torture for five and a half years while in captivity in a North Vietnamese prison, said these techniques endanger U.S. fighting forces.
"What happens next time when a conflict with an American not in a uniform on some kind of clandestine operation — such as our people who were in Afhganistan in civilian clothes — is captured? What kind of protections do you think that that American service man or woman is going to get?" McCain asked.
Several lawmakers have recently visited the Camp Delta prison at Guantanamo and have expressed support for keeping the facility open, but lawmakers on Thursday said Congress must accept some of the blame for failing to draft a new law on processing enemy combatants
Maybe if congress hadn't decided to sit on their thumbs about the whole war effort they might have thought of it.
"The Congress has been AWOL here. We've criticized and we've appaulded but we've been absent when it comes to designing policies," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who also is a lawyer for the Reserves.
Good job Sen. Lindsey! Of course its a republican who realizes congress was having a collective brainfart, republicans have brains!
"It seems to me Congress has been derelict, derelict in not meeting it's responsibilites," said Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.
Now kids, heres something you'll never see again: A democratic senator actually making an intelligent statement. You get a gold star Sen. Wyden!
The military's top lawyers said they doubted whether Congress could write a law covering the handling of military detainees that would satisfy federal courts now reviewing various detainee appeals.
If only they knew how true this statement was. And the best part is, they said it to their faces!
"Regardless of what happens, we're going to stay in litigation. I don't know that that's apanacea," said Daniel J. Dell’Orto, principal deputy general counsel for the Department of Defense.
Kennedy has been one of Congress' most aggressive critics of Guantanamo Bay. Late Thursday, the senator's office announced Kennedy will visit Guantanamo on Friday, returning in the evening.
Ok, lemme say a few things.
1:OMFG... thats all for number 1.
2:Is senator kennedy really that mentally impared or does he do it JUST to piss those of us with a brain, off?
3:I think congress in general needs to go back over the geneva convention, just to refresh their limited memories.
Well kids, I hope you found that as mentally stimulating as I did. This is Mr. Conservative, signing off.
WASHINGTON — Military lawyers on Thursday elaborated for a Senate panel how they arrived at the decision that "aggressive" tactics on terror detainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, were humiliating and degrading, but not illegal.
We did express oppositon to certain things that were being proposed. Other things we did not, and I believe that our opposition was accepted in some cases and maybe not all in all cases," said Maj. Gen. Jack Rives, a lawyer for the U.S. Air Force.
The military lawyers said detainees at Guantanamo Bay were not covered by rights accorded prisoners under the Geneva Conventions, because they fought for the Taliban or Al Qaeda, neither of which accepted or applied Geneva Conventions, or fell under the definition of regular military forces.
Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, defended practices at Guantanamo, arguing that detainees are dangerous and have provided valuable intelligence in the War on Terror.
"You've got folks that are very, very bad — crimes against civilization, crimes against humanity, would kill your sister or brother or grandchild in a heartbeat, they don't care," Myers said.
Even so, senators rejected the idea that Guantanamo detainees aren't covered by the Geneva Conventions.
"I find that enormously troublesome myself, why we have a dual standard," said Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass.
Kennedy was referring to Geneva Convention standards that applied at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison, but not at Guantanamo Bay. Similar tactics such as sleep deprivation, menacing detainees with dogs and tormenting them in sexually suggestive ways were used in limited cases in both facilities, but were not authorized at Abu Ghraib.
Senator Kennedy... YOU ARE A RETARD! The dual standard is A PART OF THE GENEVA CONVENTION one of the main purposes of the dual standard is to REMIND you to follow the geneva convention. Hola sen. Kennedy, tu halba engles?! Aperently not! Gah!
Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, who was subjected to torture for five and a half years while in captivity in a North Vietnamese prison, said these techniques endanger U.S. fighting forces.
"What happens next time when a conflict with an American not in a uniform on some kind of clandestine operation — such as our people who were in Afhganistan in civilian clothes — is captured? What kind of protections do you think that that American service man or woman is going to get?" McCain asked.
Several lawmakers have recently visited the Camp Delta prison at Guantanamo and have expressed support for keeping the facility open, but lawmakers on Thursday said Congress must accept some of the blame for failing to draft a new law on processing enemy combatants
Maybe if congress hadn't decided to sit on their thumbs about the whole war effort they might have thought of it.
"The Congress has been AWOL here. We've criticized and we've appaulded but we've been absent when it comes to designing policies," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who also is a lawyer for the Reserves.
Good job Sen. Lindsey! Of course its a republican who realizes congress was having a collective brainfart, republicans have brains!
"It seems to me Congress has been derelict, derelict in not meeting it's responsibilites," said Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.
Now kids, heres something you'll never see again: A democratic senator actually making an intelligent statement. You get a gold star Sen. Wyden!
The military's top lawyers said they doubted whether Congress could write a law covering the handling of military detainees that would satisfy federal courts now reviewing various detainee appeals.
If only they knew how true this statement was. And the best part is, they said it to their faces!
"Regardless of what happens, we're going to stay in litigation. I don't know that that's apanacea," said Daniel J. Dell’Orto, principal deputy general counsel for the Department of Defense.
Kennedy has been one of Congress' most aggressive critics of Guantanamo Bay. Late Thursday, the senator's office announced Kennedy will visit Guantanamo on Friday, returning in the evening.
Ok, lemme say a few things.
1:OMFG... thats all for number 1.
2:Is senator kennedy really that mentally impared or does he do it JUST to piss those of us with a brain, off?
3:I think congress in general needs to go back over the geneva convention, just to refresh their limited memories.
Well kids, I hope you found that as mentally stimulating as I did. This is Mr. Conservative, signing off.
posted by Mr. Conservative at 7/31/2005 02:16:00 AM
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